Legend of Korra Open Thread!
Friday, January 9th, 2015 09:34 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
OMG.
So, like, Silver & Wingedbeast have started a very, very long conversation over at my last ATLA post ("On Rape and Empathy"). They've mostly started talking about Mako both as a character and as his position as a potential polyshipper with Korra & Asami.
It's...amazing. I usually don't get such long conversations like that in my comments! Hah! And I've had other people inbox me about LoK, too. So...
Here's my first-ever open thread for you guys. I know it's late, as the finale was quite some time ago. I also know that I'm not the best person to participate myself, as I stopped watching in the middle of Book 2 (I know, but the bullshit was getting to be staggering for me). But! I know a lot of my readers have finished watching LoK and have a lot of thoughts on it. And you guys have a lot of thoughts on ATLA, and it's okay to share those too!
...But do not scorn Zuko's hair. I will destroy you with my homemade pancakes & bacon. I mean it. I got my mother addicted to that kind of breakfast and I'll do it to you through a computer screen. No one touches Zuko's glorious hair. For the record, his Book 2 hair was my favorite. Just a little on the shaggy side, with that smexxy spikiness in the front. Flame-o, hawtman.
Other than that, please mind your trigger warnings, be nice, be safe, have fun and happy January to one and to all! :D :D
--Amarie
So, like, Silver & Wingedbeast have started a very, very long conversation over at my last ATLA post ("On Rape and Empathy"). They've mostly started talking about Mako both as a character and as his position as a potential polyshipper with Korra & Asami.
It's...amazing. I usually don't get such long conversations like that in my comments! Hah! And I've had other people inbox me about LoK, too. So...
Here's my first-ever open thread for you guys. I know it's late, as the finale was quite some time ago. I also know that I'm not the best person to participate myself, as I stopped watching in the middle of Book 2 (I know, but the bullshit was getting to be staggering for me). But! I know a lot of my readers have finished watching LoK and have a lot of thoughts on it. And you guys have a lot of thoughts on ATLA, and it's okay to share those too!
...But do not scorn Zuko's hair. I will destroy you with my homemade pancakes & bacon. I mean it. I got my mother addicted to that kind of breakfast and I'll do it to you through a computer screen. No one touches Zuko's glorious hair. For the record, his Book 2 hair was my favorite. Just a little on the shaggy side, with that smexxy spikiness in the front. Flame-o, hawtman.
Other than that, please mind your trigger warnings, be nice, be safe, have fun and happy January to one and to all! :D :D
--Amarie
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Date: 2015-01-10 02:59 am (UTC)1. Bolin is the spiritual successor of Aang. This is not to say Korra isn't awesome, she is. But, Bolin, who is too often called Sokka Light, in the last two seasons showed far more Aanglike capacity to keep on caring despite heavy problems.
2. The second season is such a letdown because Nickelodeon gave Bryke the first season with the claim that it was only going to be one season (part of why they had to close the storylines so definitively), then surprised them with the second.
So, I'm all for Silver's idea of giving guaranteed two season runs (with early decisions to assess a third season), to give shows a good chance at building up an audience, rather than needing to be an instant hit.
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Date: 2015-01-10 05:27 pm (UTC)I also think Bolin gets the reputation of being Sokka-lite because he's trying very hard to be like his brother, who is apparently effortlessly a ladies man, and it doesn't really work out for him. Once he's confident enough to be himself (which lava-bending does for him), then he and Opal start having a good relationship.
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Date: 2015-01-10 05:38 pm (UTC)Bolin has the temperament of Aang.
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Date: 2015-01-10 06:17 pm (UTC)Bolin really is more Aang than Korra will be. (Much to Tenzin's...?)
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Date: 2015-01-10 06:27 pm (UTC)I mean, the Avatar doesn't actually seem to be the previous Avatar reborn, because they have their completely separate emotions and thoughts that can advise a current Avatar but not be shared by a current Avatar.
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Date: 2015-01-12 04:03 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-01-12 04:18 am (UTC)So, I'm going to go ahead and think of them as separate souls... with an extra connection through Rava. I won't go into too much detail as to how Avatarworld afterlives exist (or if they exist) and just hope it's all... well at least kinda fair.
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Date: 2015-01-13 02:19 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-01-13 02:29 am (UTC)In that thinking, Iroh would have died, but still made his way back, because Zuko still needs looking after... and I just gave myself a lump in the throat thinking of that.
Future scene, Zuko's lived his long life and passed on, he eventually meets up with his uncle and can sit at tea as a young child, and even later on introduce Iroh to his wife.
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Date: 2015-01-13 03:28 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-01-13 03:34 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-01-10 04:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-01-10 05:19 pm (UTC)In short, it's a good example of what happens when you have excellent creators and the management interferes in a bad way.
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Date: 2015-01-10 05:31 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-01-10 05:42 pm (UTC)As stated in the other post, though, I think the writers just never thought that Mako needed to develop. That left him being... Standard Issue Heroic Personality. Put him in an 80s cartoon. In Avatarworld, he has some lessons to learn.
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Date: 2015-01-10 06:10 pm (UTC)It might also work best for Korra and Asami if they both agree that Mako is their toy to share so that nobody has to get jealous. The friendship is more important.
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Date: 2015-01-10 06:25 pm (UTC)If we're going to push for a poly-relationship, let it be Bolin. He has something to bring to the relationship, namely his energy and his constant readiness to put his heart on the line. That isn't limited to romantic elements, he cares, he cares hard, and he has an ability to push other people to be better through that. Heck, he managed to get Verrick to be less selfish.
And, that's if they really think that their relationship could use a third member. This isn't some Anita Blake world where being bisexual means you *have* to have at least one of each.
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Date: 2015-01-11 03:09 am (UTC)Considering that the topic really hasn't come up in the show, making either answer possible, should the story reflect Korra and Asami dealing with anti-gay bigotry or not?
I can see it either way, especially given that Avatarworld seems to be East Asian culture without European influences. But, do we prefer the fantasy of the Avatar bringing change to the world by forcing same-sex relationships into the forefront and fighting to end this bigotry or do we prefer a fantasy where this just wasn't an issue to begin with?
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Date: 2015-01-13 02:15 am (UTC)I think the rest of the world might have a fierce debate, though, because Korra and Asami are very public figures and it would be all the excuse needed for someone to try and push their agenda. Book Five might end up being about takeovers in Future Industries and political calls for the other world leaders to rein Korra in from flaunting herself. (Tenzin and Fire Lord Izumi give precisely zero fucks about it, Wu waffles with the wind, and maybe Raikou isn't in favor of it, but he knows better than to openly say it, so nothing happens.)
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Date: 2015-01-13 02:25 am (UTC)That said, that's if there's an issue of anti-gay bigotry in Avatarworld. It's just as possible that there isn't one at all, based on what we've seen and that they're analogs for cultures that didn't originate that specific bigotry themselves.
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Date: 2015-01-13 03:37 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-01-13 03:39 am (UTC)Then, there's the fantasy of Avatar-world gay-pride parades in which the Avatar and a leading business woman lead the chant of "We're here. We're queer. You gotta deal with it!"
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Date: 2015-01-14 07:00 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-01-14 07:52 am (UTC)And, it would all end in a massive bending battle and marriage equality.
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Date: 2015-01-14 09:10 pm (UTC)Off topic!
Date: 2015-01-24 08:05 pm (UTC)Re: Off topic!
Date: 2015-01-24 11:03 pm (UTC)I'm reading "The Eagle and the Fox: Part I": (http://wagadu.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-eagle-and-the-fox-part-i ) and loving it so far! :D :D :D :D
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU, my friend!!!!
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Date: 2015-02-05 08:29 am (UTC)Re: Off topic!
Date: 2015-02-05 05:33 pm (UTC)